tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post2986266745772614116..comments2023-07-17T11:55:51.363+02:00Comments on ObservingGreece: And the next one iiiis... Henkel!kleinguthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12491174042954678023noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-40031973053997683592013-01-20T12:02:16.281+01:002013-01-20T12:02:16.281+01:00A friend commented via email to the above post. He...A friend commented via email to the above post. Here it is:<br /><br />In Greece, what the Unilevers & Henkels of this world are doing is exactly what many multinationals did post the fall of the Junta in 1974 - and I was part of the ... Bank which helped to finance many of them. Mind you, quite a few of them were looking to break even in the local market on products manufactured here - whilst setting up Middle East offices to also export to that troubled part of the world - especially when Lebanon became untenable. Ironically, at that stage in the area's history, Saddam Hussein's Iraq was a key export market for some of these multinationals!<br /><br />I still hold to the view that Greece will be forced into the Drachma - whilst remaining within the EU. Guess what? Multinationals setting up manufacturing operations here could also produce for export to the Eurozone - and gain valuable foreign exchange revenue!!kleinguthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12491174042954678023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-62718761214087788102013-01-20T11:05:46.260+01:002013-01-20T11:05:46.260+01:00I agree. As long as products for Greek consumption...I agree. As long as products for Greek consumption are produced in Greece instead of abroad, regardless whether it is a subsidiary of a foreign company or a Greek company under license, it's good news for Greece. Perhaps even better news under license because the Greek fear of 'foreigners taking over their economy' does not come into play.<br /><br />Obviously, if the Greek licensee produces in Cyprus instead of Greece, then we are back to sware 1.kleinguthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12491174042954678023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-86132617813016425282013-01-20T10:24:29.979+01:002013-01-20T10:24:29.979+01:00My mistake, looking deeper I found the Henkel prod...My mistake, looking deeper I found the Henkel products made by Lamda Detergents (Alapis) are probably made in Cyprus, or in Bulgaria - along with a many other well know brands, including Unilever. <br /><br />See <a href="http://www.alapis.gr/default.asp?pid=105&la=2" rel="nofollow">Alapis Detergents and Cosmetics</a><br /><br />There's nothing as yet on Rolco-Vianil website about the Henkel contract. Unanswered questions: How many extra staff will Rolco-Vianil employ? Will Henkel products be cheaper? <br /><br />Lidl, and Aldi are among <a href="http://www.rolco.gr/index.php?module=content&cid=007006" rel="nofollow">Rolco-Vianil Contract Manufacturing</a> customers. <br /><br />CKCanutely Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07318977471631386327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-72970701565276528382013-01-19T10:03:52.786+01:002013-01-19T10:03:52.786+01:00Well, even if CK is right, there will be Greek mad...Well, even if CK is right, there will be Greek made detergent in the shops instead of imports. <br /><br />That has to be a step up! All right, it might be a step to one side. Greeks will read that such things are made in Greece, and no longer think so much of German - or Chinese - domination. Gemmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01544898113676166032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-72860732376803467042013-01-19T09:47:34.650+01:002013-01-19T09:47:34.650+01:00@ Antoinette
Perhaps you should explain why it is...@ Antoinette<br /><br />Perhaps you should explain why it is shocking in your view that 80 MPs felt that Papademos (and Papandreaou) should shoulder responsibility over the Lagarde list.<br /><br />A famous American president put a sign on his desk saying "The Buck Stops Here".<br />As President, as head of his party, as head of his Cabinet, he was making a point about ultimate responsibility in politics and business. Any small businessman can assure you that this principle holds - he knows it to his cost. Unfortunately today CEOs and politicians no longer abide by this.<br /><br />Therefore 80 MPs made a valid point. No doubt Papandreaou and Papademos did not erase memory sticks or 'lose' evidence. But they were in charge of the people who did, and were responsible to the greek public for the inquiry into this matter.<br /><br />Furthermore, as PMs overseeing the austerity measures applied to the greek public, they were 1) responsible for ensuring that these measures were applied equally to the greek 'elite', ie rich. and 2) that for example, in the interest of a level playing field for greek business and the consumer public, monopolies and cartels were broken up. (For example, to this day Greek groceries are the 2nd most expensive in the EU.) This they both signally failed to do.<br /><br />The Lagarde list is a minor matter (in a just world there would be a list for each offshore bank) but it is emblematic of the continued culture of cover-up and corruption in Greece, and the protection extended by each successive government to its oligopolist cronies.<br /><br />At least Papandreaou belatedly tried to offer a referendum to the greek public. Papademos felt no need to consult, or to even show sympathy - this was left to Papoulias, the President, who also waived his quarter million salary.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-26860528701436083332013-01-18T14:49:57.623+01:002013-01-18T14:49:57.623+01:00Better News - Greek Language links, from an initia...Better News - Greek Language links, from an initial quick glance at the new, for me at least, <a href="http://www.imerisia.gr/default.asp?catid=26496" rel="nofollow">Imerisia</a> site <br /><br /><a href="http://www.imerisia.gr/article.asp?catid=26519&subid=2&pubid=112979913" rel="nofollow">Investments of 70 million "Marinopoulos"</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.imerisia.gr/article.asp?catid=26519&subid=2&pubid=112980178" rel="nofollow">Fortnight of Greek products in supermarkets in Portugal</a> <br /><br />Maybe they will come to my local supermarket in Sydney next, if so then I hope they can handle the heat in the kitchen - today was 45.8°C (114.4°F)- hottest day on record.<br /><br />I'll trawl through Imerisia tomorrow and see if I can catch some bigger fish. <br /><br />Some young Greeks opened a restaurant a couple of weeks ago within walking distance of my place, its called The Psari Shop. When the sign went up as it was being fitted out I thought it was going to be selling <a href="https://lh3.ggpht.com/-auWpd6FW2FU/ToH1Ec7BjCI/AAAAAAAAAEA/UGI7ysTNoFE/s1600/silk-saree-2.jpg" rel="nofollow">these</a> :lol: <br /><br />CKCanutely Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07318977471631386327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-53588988479036587522013-01-18T13:44:02.048+01:002013-01-18T13:44:02.048+01:00Reading the fine print I see that Rolco-Vianil, a ...Reading the fine print I see that Rolco-Vianil, a long established Greek detergent business, will be manufacturing Henkel products. Henkel closed its Greek factory in 2000, since then another Greek company, Lamda Detergent (a member of the Alapis group), has been manufacturing Henkel products - Alapis is owned by Lavrentis Lavrentiadis.<br /><br />So, sadly, there appears to be little or no new investment in the Henkel news :(<br /><br />But China Daily reports <a href="http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2013-01/16/content_16124255.htm" rel="nofollow">COSCO considers acquiring majority stake in Greek port</a> for 1 billion euros !!<br /><br />There's a bit more detail there than what was in the eKathi item.<br /><br />CKCanutely Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07318977471631386327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-25281304212080814692013-01-18T12:55:27.879+01:002013-01-18T12:55:27.879+01:00A bit surprised because of the good mood atmospher...A bit surprised because of the good mood atmosphere, as if nothing has happened, while I am trying to get over the huge disappointment about all what has happened in the Greek parliament about "the case" in which even Loucas Papademos was one of the accused. <br />It is incredible and shocking that this is a question: is he guilty or not.<br /><br />I am shocked that it is possible in 2013 what they do in parliament. Not one who has a question if that is legal. Nothing in the news about it. Nowhere. Not on twitter, not on google, not in even Ekathimerini. <br />In fact this is a case for Amnesty International.<br /><br />I am deeply ashamed about the 300 Greeks, and most of all the 80 of them who dared to vote against Papademos. <br />I am ashamed of the Greek media.<br />This goes beyond intelligence, this goes even beyond evil, this is completely the end of what I understand of Ethics. Law. Justice.<br /><br />If there is one big Force that is needed in Greece it is the Force of Justice.<br />May the Sword of Justice do its work.<br />For all who curse Greece and its values from the past.<br /><br /><br /><br />..https://www.blogger.com/profile/10416164919259728676noreply@blogger.com