tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post9115797609248562260..comments2023-07-17T11:55:51.363+02:00Comments on ObservingGreece: "Greeks Are Interested In The Eternal And Not The Contemporary!"kleinguthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12491174042954678023noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-80171772306938516402017-07-11T12:41:50.923+02:002017-07-11T12:41:50.923+02:00"Greeks are interested in the eternal". ..."Greeks are interested in the eternal". In that case a few years of discomfort are insignificant, if you can spend them dreaming of past and future (eternal) greatness.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-22200675463129518822017-07-11T09:29:49.421+02:002017-07-11T09:29:49.421+02:00The Greek crises is not FOREVER, only eternal.The Greek crises is not FOREVER, only eternal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-86705084821144477652017-07-10T14:32:10.245+02:002017-07-10T14:32:10.245+02:00The Eternal? I have lived in many cultures, but I ...The Eternal? I have lived in many cultures, but I have yet to experience one with the myopic focus on instant gratification of the modern Greek. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-19128071007922176782017-07-09T10:52:47.074+02:002017-07-09T10:52:47.074+02:00Urs:
You keep missing the fact that saving the Gr...Urs:<br /><br />You keep missing the fact that saving the Greek state is none of my concern. I explained why and you purposely ignore it. <br /><br />So if you want to get serious the answer is that you will pay for the Greek pension system because you broke it. And once you break something you own it. And now that you have occupied my country I have zero desire to collaborate with you on anything. Figure it all out on your own. And keep sending the money because these are the rules of the EU and we need to follow the rules.Dean Plassarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13405528205926966179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-3120713012986786722017-07-09T00:56:18.146+02:002017-07-09T00:56:18.146+02:00@Phoevos:
1. Hegel isn’t in any way one of "...@Phoevos:<br /><br />1. Hegel isn’t in any way one of "my philosophers".<br />2. The claim that "Being and non-being are the same" is pseudo profound nonsense. <br />3. Your childish armchair strategems can not hide the abysmal state the Greek economy and the Greek society is in. <br />4. Your half baked reflections on history are nothing but escapism. Hic Rhodos, hic salta. Tell us how you think a sustainable greek pension system would look like, how it can be financed and what the appopriate pension age would be. Try to argue like a grown up and not like a huffy brat. <br />UrsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-89291012200265642392017-07-08T22:40:54.647+02:002017-07-08T22:40:54.647+02:00To Urs on July 8, 2017 at 8:31 AM
And yet you pon...To Urs on July 8, 2017 at 8:31 AM<br /><br />And yet you pontificate on the Greek "psyche", national character, mentality (seemingly a more safe word and, hence, in vogue), collective spirit or subconscious, historical determination, ethnic psycho-pathology or whatever, without even understanding the language, much less speaking it… How seriously would you take someone claiming the same for the study of British, French, Americans, your Germans (but tellingly enough not Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians and … Russians) or even your dearest germanophone / Germanic selves, all the while proudly incapable to hold a conversation in their respective languages? I wonder where this attitude stems from and what does it mean for those adopting it… I'll give you a hint: it is actually integral to the point I was implying in my first riposte to your informed opinion / medical report. <br /><br />And here's an other stepping stone on the arduous path towards your self-knowledge!<br /> You're welcome!<br /><br />To answer your question now:<br />Άμπελος, η = Vine <br />Έθνος, το= Nation<br />Ψυχολογία, η= Psychology<br />It's a compound word I made up but easily decipherable by a Greek speaker since it is formed after the very common term: "αμπελοφιλοσοφία" (abelofilossofia) or better in plural: "αμπελοφιλοσοφίες" (abelofilossofies)= άμπελος + φιλοσοφία ( philosophy) = "philosophy of the vine", drunken philosophy or philosophy of the drunkards, i.e. ostentatious remarks uttered with pretentions of profoundness while, in fact, wild claims and… balderdash. I hope it's easy now to deduce the meaning of "αμπελοεθνοψυχολογία" ! <br /><br />It is after all something in which are extremely quick to indulge themselves a great many people of a certain "education" and political persuasion (though not as exclusively so as one would imagine), as long as no one returns the favor, especially if these virtuous, "by-our-bootstraps" αμπελοεθνοψυχολόγοι come from German or Germanic lands. <br /><br />Lykinos<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-6079392094077447522017-07-08T16:36:51.799+02:002017-07-08T16:36:51.799+02:00Urs:
Can I be paid in non-taxable Swiss francs fo...Urs:<br /><br />Can I be paid in non-taxable Swiss francs for your Greek lesson?<br /><br />αμποελοεθνοψυχολογία = αμπελο (grape vine) + εθνο (state, ethnic) + ψυχολογία (psychology) = a study of the mind regarding ethnic issues using the methods of grape harvesting (grape harvesting here meaning a superficial and unscientific approach).<br /><br />Please deposit your funds into my tax free Swiss bank account without alerting the Swiss authorities, if you please. Dean Plassarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13405528205926966179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-44057752891881758522017-07-08T15:58:24.431+02:002017-07-08T15:58:24.431+02:00To Urs on July 8, 2017 at 8:31 AM
And yet you pon...To Urs on July 8, 2017 at 8:31 AM<br /><br />And yet you pontificate on the Greek "psyche", national character, mentality (seemingly a more safe word and, hence, in vogue), collective spirit or subconscious, historical determination, ethnic psycho-pathology or whatever, without even understanding the language, much less speaking it… How seriously would you take someone claiming the same for the study of British, French, Americans, even your Germans (but tellingly enough not Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians and … Russians) or even your dearest germanophone / Germanic selves, all the while proudly incapable to hold a conversation in their respective languages? I wonder where this attitude stems from and what does it mean for those adopting it… I'll give you a hint: it is actually integral to the point I was implying in my first riposte to your informed opinion / medical report. <br /><br />And here's an other stepping stone on the arduous path towards your self-knowledge!<br />You're welcome!<br /><br />To answer your question now:<br />Άμπελος, η = Vine <br />Έθνος, το= Nation<br />Ψυχολογία, η= Psychology<br />It's a compound word I made up but easily decipherable by a Greek speaker since it is formed after the very common term: "αμπελοφιλοσοφία" (abelofilossofia)= άμπελος + φιλοσοφία ( philosophy) = "philosophy of the vine", drunken philosophy or philosophy of the drunkards, i.e. ostentatious remarks uttered with pretentions of profoundness while, in fact, wild claims and… balderdash. I hope it's easy now to deduce the meaning of "αμπελοεθνοψυχολογία" ! <br /><br />It is after all something in which are extremely quick to indulge themselves a great many people of a certain "education" and political persuasion (though not as exclusively so as one would imagine), as long as no one returns the favor, especially if these virtuous, "by-our-bootstraps" αμπελοεθνοψυχολόγοι come from German or Germanic lands. <br /><br />Lykinos<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-16679667675057177622017-07-08T14:28:41.671+02:002017-07-08T14:28:41.671+02:00Kleingut:
You mean one of the false pillars plant...Kleingut:<br /><br />You mean one of the false pillars planted by the Rome-invented church? This would be a good thing and at least I am not only observing but contributing as well, no?<br /><br />Did the honorable citizens of the Austohungarian empire not get Voltaire's memo that the Holy Roman Empire was "neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire"?Dean Plassarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13405528205926966179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-81659582167568580052017-07-08T10:44:32.122+02:002017-07-08T10:44:32.122+02:00@Phoevos
Be careful when you call the Ottomans the...@Phoevos<br />Be careful when you call the Ottomans the best thing that ever happened to Greeks. You are shaking one of the pillars of Greek victimhood!kleinguthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12491174042954678023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-85428284109279392282017-07-08T08:31:22.341+02:002017-07-08T08:31:22.341+02:00@Lykinos:
Before I answer your question you have ...@Lykinos: <br />Before I answer your question you have to ranslate "αμποελοεθνοψυχολογία". This is afaik an english language blog. Thanks.<br />UrsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-28039609147567776712017-07-08T01:46:25.819+02:002017-07-08T01:46:25.819+02:00Urs:
I am not sure why it's so hard for you t...Urs:<br /><br />I am not sure why it's so hard for you to understand Greek nature. It's one of your own philosophers, Hegel, who quoted one of our own philosophers Heraclitus in saying:<br /><br />Sein und Nichts sei dasselbe<br />Being and non-being are the same.<br /><br />So, that's what we are. Greeks are the "being and non-being" people all at the same time and with regular repetition. And this non-definition is the secret of our survival.Dean Plassarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13405528205926966179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-26174955528911207362017-07-07T21:47:55.463+02:002017-07-07T21:47:55.463+02:00Welcome to the FOREVER Greek crisis thanks to Berl...Welcome to the FOREVER Greek crisis thanks to Berlin and Brussels. And they think that they can positively influence the Greeks. Yeah, right!<br /><br />http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/825839/greece-financial-crisis-poll-reveals-greek-citizens-pessimistic-about-future-bailout-euDean Plassarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13405528205926966179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-75541517583111409932017-07-07T15:46:34.754+02:002017-07-07T15:46:34.754+02:00To Urs on July 6, 2017 at 7:31 PM
But more import...To Urs on July 6, 2017 at 7:31 PM<br /><br />But more importantly, pray tell, in this little play you’ve concocted (with the “centuries-long existence under Ottoman occupation” being the little cherry on top your EXTREMLY trite – shows how much you know – αμποελοεθνοψυχολογία”) what exactly is the role you’ve cast your dear self in?<br /><br />Lykinos <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-49542425337775210422017-07-07T15:27:49.852+02:002017-07-07T15:27:49.852+02:00o.k. so let's look at the big picture for a mo...o.k. so let's look at the big picture for a moment. There are far more exciting things going on other than the slowly dying eurozone. And Greece could benefit from those new trends.<br /><br />So the new European important player is Poland. And Poland means intermarium. And intermarium means that instead of Turkey comprising its southern chain link, the triad of Greece, Cyprus and Israel should take its place. And who knows Kleingut, maybe through the intermarium, Austria and Greece might have something in common after all.<br /><br />https://geopoliticalfutures.com/intermarium-three-seas/<br />Dean Plassarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13405528205926966179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-62325572347824068942017-07-07T01:55:36.526+02:002017-07-07T01:55:36.526+02:00Nothing happened during the Ottomans Urs. They app...Nothing happened during the Ottomans Urs. They appreciated the Greeks and mostly Constantinople-based Greeks run the empire.<br /><br />In my opinion the Ottomans were the best thing that happened to Greeks because it's through them we finished with Rome and then gained our freedom as an independent nation. You and the rest of Europe are still under Roman occupation (see EUSSR) or those pursuing Roman nonsense like Charlomagne. We have nothing to do with Rome because we are Greeks, in other words, the idols of the Romans. Romans worshipped us; we did not return the feeling because they were not our equals. It's so simple if you know where to look.Dean Plassarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13405528205926966179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-9416146852289880232017-07-06T19:46:38.018+02:002017-07-06T19:46:38.018+02:00Obviously the question whether you shop at the rig...Obviously the question whether you shop at the right supermarket will always come up.<br /><br />According to this export website below Greek exports to the UK are up about 5% for the 4 months of 2017 ending in April. Perhaps you need to do your shopping in nearby Ireland where Greek exports are up 42% this year or maybe Denmark where Greek exports are 74% up YTD.<br /><br />http://www.pse.gr/node/41Dean Plassarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13405528205926966179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-11451698835586506022017-07-06T19:31:30.960+02:002017-07-06T19:31:30.960+02:00@kleingut:
I think the responding person is utterl...@kleingut:<br />I think the responding person is utterly delusional and tries to make sense or rationalise the mental state that led Greece (and many Greeks) into poverty and dependency.<br />Many Greeks seem to be fully convinced that Greeks (at least when living in Greece) are incacapable of caring for themselves, unable to do anything useful and thus they envision themselves completely and utterly at their friends and enemies mercy.<br />They try to cover this conviction of their own helplessness with their boastful rhetoric of enemies, strategy, retaliation and damnation. Yet all this empty rubbish is just a band aid on the wound of their deeply felt inferiority. This may be the result of their centuries-long existence under Ottoman occupation, but however this mentality developed the Greeks have to free themselves from it.<br />Urs<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-28548509349394258932017-07-06T17:59:02.870+02:002017-07-06T17:59:02.870+02:00I'm just back from the supermarket , no Greek ...I'm just back from the supermarket , no Greek exports spotted, I'm in the UK.Dinerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14632385731642361211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-4861884778066142772017-07-05T14:40:29.985+02:002017-07-05T14:40:29.985+02:00o.k. I kind of regret it that I gave it away :)o.k. I kind of regret it that I gave it away :)Dean Plassarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13405528205926966179noreply@blogger.com