tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post5713480315995275348..comments2023-07-17T11:55:51.363+02:00Comments on ObservingGreece: "The More Tax Evasion, The Higher The Bill For Tax Payers!"kleinguthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12491174042954678023noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-87704311834542544202018-03-22T14:09:19.158+01:002018-03-22T14:09:19.158+01:00Maybe Syriza will make Wieser and other Europeans ...Maybe Syriza will make Wieser and other Europeans happy. According to a senior government official , there is now a date on the Growth and Development plan, it will be presented April 27. It will have Greek ownership (a Gmbh?) and 3 recipients, the creditors, the markets and the Greek public. It will have all the characteristics of a plan, purpose, scope of work, master schedule and budget.<br />It will be interesting to see how they will solve the trilemma of the 3 recipients.<br />PS. Alas, as all Greek media reports, the drawing up of the plan was forced upon Greece by the Euro group.<br />Lennard. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-73507021881386945792018-03-12T09:17:13.193+01:002018-03-12T09:17:13.193+01:00Don't get me wrong, I have deep respect for Wi...Don't get me wrong, I have deep respect for Wieser and others, who worked years in a toxic environment to reach a constructive solution. While hesitant to interpret Wieser's message, I hope it was the same as the one so well formulated by the Dutch ambassador recently.<br />Lennard. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-40372029012965294862018-03-11T08:03:12.321+01:002018-03-11T08:03:12.321+01:00https://twitter.com/pkarkatsoulis/status/972037018...https://twitter.com/pkarkatsoulis/status/972037018241859585<br /><br />What he says:<br /><br />"55% of Greek government departments have a maximum of 3 employees. And while there is this abundance of officers without officials, the minister of education is increasing his department heads from 232 to 630."<br /><br />Horizontal line: % in total departments<br /><br />Vertical line: number of employees per department<br /><br />Inside graph:<br /><br />21% of departments do not have an employee (but they have a chief-head)<br /><br />14% of departments = 1 employee<br />11% of departments = 2 employees<br />9% of departments = 3 employees<br /><br />55% of all departments have up to 3 employees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-84776410044092057852018-03-10T07:04:58.337+01:002018-03-10T07:04:58.337+01:00We won't. "They will take it" hopef...We won't. "They will take it" hopefully peacefully.<br /><br />Why do you think Turkey is doing what it is doing. For islands?<br /><br />VAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-30044631186822678702018-03-09T13:31:44.973+01:002018-03-09T13:31:44.973+01:00What if Greece found a way out of this mess? (Use ...What if Greece found a way out of this mess? (Use your Google translator)<br /><br />https://slpress.gr/oikonomia/o-amythitos-thisavros-ton-ellinikon-vithon/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-91619020083846686302018-03-09T10:40:50.315+01:002018-03-09T10:40:50.315+01:00On this point you misunderstood me: I, too, though...On this point you misunderstood me: I, too, thought that the difference between the headline and the interview was enormous, i. e. misleading.<br /><br />Perhaps it's the Austrian blood in Wieser that allows him to phrase things is such a way that one can pretty well speculate as to what he means (particularly is one has Austrian blood oneself...) but which, at the same time, will later allow him to argue that he had meant exactly the opposite (Robert Musil: "The man without qualities").<br /><br />I, for one, think that Wieser was saying what you say he should have been saying, just in a very Austrian way. Yes, there may be a bit of washing one's hands in innocence.<br /><br />But on one point you and I differ totally: I certainly did not think that Wieser is optimistic about Greece's future. In fact, I thought he was suggesting between the lines that "Greece and Greeks will never change".kleinguthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12491174042954678023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-16970608912898482612018-03-09T08:32:49.909+01:002018-03-09T08:32:49.909+01:00@ Klaus.
Not only do Ekathimerini quote Wieser out...@ Klaus.<br />Not only do Ekathimerini quote Wieser out of context, they also misquote him. When asked what mistakes the institution made, he answered that what Greece wanted (needed) was:<br />1. A complete change of economic policies.<br />2. Debt relief.<br />After that he become wishy washy diplomatic, instead of telling the ungarnished truth that none of the 2 will work alone. He fails to say that Greek governments, then as now, in their words and acts, refuse to change the economic policies. He fails to tell what you have told so many times about the derivative (the debt) of the underlying (the behavior), and in spite of that Greece did get quite some debt relief. <br />I don't read him as being optimistic regarding Greece, but rather washing his hands of her. He is saying what so many Europeans are. "We have brought you through the worst of it, as well as you would let us, now it is up to you. If you want to go it alone without the lifeline we have offered you, do so, but don't come back".<br />With their headline Ekath stimulate the Greek feeling of being the unjust victim. In a way you do the same with your remarks about EWG and Eurogroup of Finance Ministers. Both were democratic and necessary, if they had not been there Greece would have been out of the EZ and EU by now. Without them, who would have transmitted the economic and political consequences to the 18 parliaments who had to approve them? Greek PM's or FinMin's, "flagrantly flouting the rules", in an 18 ring circus?<br />Lennard. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-68079746336299436572018-03-08T15:46:10.577+01:002018-03-08T15:46:10.577+01:00Careful now with all this "powurful" &qu...Careful now with all this "powurful" "soul-searching" and "ownership" Mr. Wieser… You don't wanna go off saying anything consequential for a man of your position or anything out of the tune men of your position and from your part of the woods have been comfortably singing all along…<br /><br />Lykinos<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-62741195870942432862018-03-08T14:52:51.072+01:002018-03-08T14:52:51.072+01:00Weiser made a false statement (which was overprint...Weiser made a false statement (which was overprinted by Kathimerini) that Greece's damage to its economy during the six months of early 2015 was 200 Billion euro which happens to exceed the entire Greek GDP. So he is clearly a propagandist and a bad one at this.<br /><br />Now when a bad propagandist repeats general statements such as "that tax evaders increase the tax burden on others", he actually damages the message because the messenger lacks credibility.<br /><br />From the highly advertised Lagarde list, Greece was able to collect 150 Million of extra tax revenue which is peanuts.<br /><br />So the tax problem in Greece has two dimensions. On dimension is its efficiency which needs to improve and become more sophisticated. For years Greek merchants refused to accept credit cards and now it seems that credit card use has become more accepted and in fact required. Believe it or not, speaking from personal experience, when I had to pay my ENFIA (real estate) tax from overseas I couldn't go to a government website and use one of my credit cards to do it. I had to send the money to my lawyer (losing tons of value in currency conversions with Greek banks acting as the monopoly looter) and then someone from the law office had to spend valuable man-hours to physically walk the payment through the system. So there is plenty of room for improvement in tax efficiency collection. To have payers practically begging to pay their obligations and a sclerotic system designed to make the experience totally unfriendly is a mark of idiocy for the Greek bureaucracy.<br /><br />Now, the other and most important means of increasing tax revenue is by growing the economy which is severely constrained by austerity. So on top of Greek idiocy we now have the European idiocy to deal with of which Weiser is a bit of a slimy representative.<br /><br />Bottom line: You picked a good subject Klaus but the very wrong tool to advance your point. Weiser is a representative of what is wrong with Brussels and of course he is now history for the good of Brussels and Greece.<br /><br />Dean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882645467378797266.post-89365821045202153182018-03-08T10:19:32.946+01:002018-03-08T10:19:32.946+01:00Emotional Abuse can occur to anybody. It might may...Emotional Abuse can occur to anybody. It might maybe not appear to be <br />it. Nonetheless it hurts just as much as real punishment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com